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So are you an Aussi? (Oi Oi Oi!) --[[User:Ceruleus|Ceruleus]] 19:17, 16 April 2008 (PDT)
 
So are you an Aussi? (Oi Oi Oi!) --[[User:Ceruleus|Ceruleus]] 19:17, 16 April 2008 (PDT)
  
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Some articles are linking to other articles labeled according to armor groups, for example, [[Bone Armor]] has [[Special:Whatlinkshere/Bone_Armor|a few pages]] leading to it. However, this page (and quite a few others) don't actually exist.
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(So THAT's what "noeditsection" does...)
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What does it do?  I couldn't figure it out:)
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[[User:Meridus|Meridus]] 20:46, 17 July 2008 (PDT)
  
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These phantom articles do, on the other hand, have identically named categories. What I've started to do is redirect the articles to these instead in order to reduce the number of red links about the place.
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For example, I set up the [[Platemail Armor]] category with a brief description. I've also done more or less the same thing with [[Leather Armor]].
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You know how each section in a page (like this one, "Chat Section") has an "edit" link next to the title? Well, it gets rid of those. Handy when trying to embed sections into a table (where the links really mess things up).
  
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However, this involves tweaking quite a few pages and I don't want to mess up things too badly if something else is planned. So is this a good idea?
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- [[User:Bomb Bloke|Bomb Bloke]] 20:53, 17 July 2008 (PDT)
  
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- [[User:Bomb Bloke|Bomb Bloke]] 00:50, 13 April 2008 (PDT)
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Thanks.  I had to laugh.  I read your description, and then read the command, and thought "I guess it was kinda obvious."  As a side note, your tables look awesome!
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[[User:Meridus|Meridus]] 21:10, 17 July 2008 (PDT)
  
 
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I think there should be a page for things such as Bone Armor and Leather Armor, not just linking to categories. In these pages it would be information such as the history of changes to leather armor (medable penalty removal, information about leather dying, etc.). If such a page didn't exist then it would be repetitive to place it on each piece of armor's page (6 in the case of leather). There is also a smaller benefit in being able to link to uoguide.com/Leather_Armor for ease of user searching and search engine indexing. - [[User:JC the Builder|JC the Builder]] 13:02, 13 April 2008 (PDT)
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Thanks. But really I just found a few tables I liked, and then set about copying them where ever I felt relevant. ;)
  
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=Blacksmithy Crafting Categories=
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- [[User:Bomb Bloke|Bomb Bloke]] 21:15, 17 July 2008 (PDT)
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Well all craftable items are now accounted for on their respective crafting skill pages. Yay.
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So now I was wondering if we could wipe out the crafting "category" pages for the blacksmithy skill. These are: [[Bladed]], [[Bashing]], [[Axes]], and [[Polearm]].
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I've got a few reasons for this.
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Bomb Bloke...a full [[Bag of Sending]] can send 15000 gold not 1500 that is why I changed it.  Try it out...1 charge per 10 stones...50 gold per 1 stone = 500 gold per 10 stones = 1 charge for 500 gold = 30 charges for 15000 gold.
  
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* The [[Blacksmithy]] page now lists all items by category anyway making the extra pages redundant.
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[[User:TullyMars|TullyMars]] 13:48, 7 August 2008 (EDT)
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* There are more items with "blades" then those on the "bladed" menu. Confusing.
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* The lists don't actually provide any useful information. What's important is which weapons go with which weapon skills.
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* Not all weapons are craftable. For example, the [[Black Staff]] and the [[Wand]] are "bashing" weapons that a smith can't create. This makes that list yet more confusing in that it "appears" incomplete.
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To further complicate matters, there's also ''categories'' for each of these crafting categories: [[:Category:Bladed]], [[:Category:Bashing]], [[:Category:Axes]], and [[:Category:Polearms]]. Between the [[:Category:Blacksmithy|Blacksmithy category]] and the [[:Category:Weapons|Weapons category]] it's a mess (as some are in one or the other or both or even in other places entirely).
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And ha! The only articles in the Bladed category are weapons that aren't even on the smith's bladed list!!
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My apologies, I got it stuck in my head that one charge per stone was required.
  
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So what I'd like to see is pages/categories for swords/macing/fencing/archery weapons, perhaps one for axes (which are unique in that they train [[Lumberjacking]] when used), and pages for one/two handed weapons. Scrap all the smithy related weapons pages/categories and avoid all the confusion. If a weapon can be crafted by a smith, it goes in the smithy category and not in some confusing sub-category.
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- [[User:Bomb Bloke|Bomb Bloke]] 21:55, 11 August 2008 (PDT)
  
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Now I could just go through and re-format the category layouts for every weapon page without asking, but I'd like to get some sort of permission before making such a large amount of edits. Any thoughts?
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- [[User:Bomb Bloke|Bomb Bloke]] 02:38, 9 June 2008 (PDT)
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I wanted to notify you that I've responded to your comment on [[User talk:Thadius856|my talk page]]. [[User:Thadius856|Thadius856]] 23:35, 10 September 2008 (PDT)
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Well, I've replied to your comment on my talk page. I'm not sure if I'll continue contributing... maybe, maybe not. I feel as if my additions to the guide are unappreciated, despite my donation of time and best efforts. Thanks for talking all the same. [[User:Thadius856|Thadius856]] 00:32, 11 September 2008 (PDT)
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I've promoted 3 people in one day and am running out of stuff to say. Congratulations, please help update the [[Main Page]]. =] - [[User:JC the Builder|JC the Builder]] 11:55, 5 September 2008 (PDT)
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Replied to the discussion on my page. - [[User:GregStaats|GregStaats]] 04:36, 30 December 2008 (EST)
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Great [[Pets]] section mate! I hadnt seen it before and I thought i had read this entire website! lol cant we get the guides listed under the guides section to auto list on the main page? when you look at the directory it looks like there are only a few guides when there are more hidden behind it? :) - [[User:ShadowSpinner|ShadowSpinner]] 09:47, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
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Thanks, though I didn't write that [http://www.uoguide.com/index.php?title=Pets&oldid=8641 from scratch]. There's also a [[Mounts]] page you might be interested in.
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Overall we don't have too many "guides", the exception being for quests. Many of the guides we do have "need work". Not really sure we have enough overall to justify sticking them on the main page just yet.
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But there's other folks around here who have their own opinions, I'm sure.  :)
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Nevertheless I've thrown a "Pets" link onto the [[UOGuide:Directory|Directory]]. Tempting to expand it out into a section, but I don't really have the time at the minute to mess with the layout (which fits quite nicely at the moment).
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Speaking of which, while I'm editing my talk page, I should note that I'm off overseas as of tomorrow. Back at the end of the month. Dunno if I'll be making much in the way of edits while I'm gone.
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- [[User:Bomb Bloke|Bomb Bloke]] 10:30, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
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Please check your Stratics private messages, I sent you one. Thanks. - [[User:JC the Builder|JC the Builder]] 21:37, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
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Re: [[Talk:Main_Page#Making_UOGuide_more]], I was messing around with vercfg.cfg the other day and could not get it to actually change the patch page. I tried several urls, but the normal patch page always came up, and some urls (especially if formatted incorrectly) even caused the patcher to crash. Have you ever managed to actually get it to change which url is displayed in the patcher?<br />--[[User:Cogniac|Cogniac]] 05:42, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
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Yes, I have previously been able to change the URL displayed by the patcher though I now find myself incapable of doing so. Upon reading the config file, the thing promptly removes my URL and replaces it with the default again (unless I phrase things "just so", in which case it'll leave my URL there but ignore it. It then adds the default URL (so it has two) and uses that).
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It also restores a whole heap of "plain english" text telling me about the great new stuff being introduced by Publish 19, if I happen to remove that from the file. Not sure why it's there in the first place.
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If I were to guess, I'd say the changes were put into place either due to something like [http://vboards.stratics.com/showthread.php?t=100605 this thread], or posts such as [http://vboards.stratics.com/showpost.php?p=858698&postcount=12 this].
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A couple of months ago the patch page was actually "fixed" somewhat (no more black text on a black background), but I still think it's past it's glory days.
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- [[User:Bomb Bloke|Bomb Bloke]] 07:31, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
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Looking at the recent changes to the [[Myrmidon Armor Set]] piece pages, I was reminded once again and have to say that you always do such fantastic work with the items and sets! --[[User:Tancred RedStar|Tancred RedStar]] 15:49, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
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Haha. You flatter me. :)
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- [[User:Bomb Bloke|Bomb Bloke]] 23:09, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
  
 
=Deletion Requests=
 
=Deletion Requests=
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Stuff I reckon needs the chop.
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Got something you reckon needs the chop?
  
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* Nothing at the moment.
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Post a link and your reasoning, I'll take a look at it.
  
 
=My Questions=
 
=My Questions=
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[[Talk:Greater Dragon]]
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*[[Talk:Greater Dragon]]
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Regarding stamina/dexterity mismatches, and maximum skill caps.
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*[[Talk:Sanctuary]]
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Regarding a cave entrance south of Sanctuary entrance.
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*[[Talk:Cocoa Tree]]
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Regarding the best use of redirects instead of pages with little info on them.
  
 
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* Complete pages on [[Gardening]]/[[Plants]].
 
:* Crossbreeding info.
 
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:* Try to remember how often [[Fertile Dirt]] gave growth bonuses...
 
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* [[Publish 51]] would suggest runic crafted/looted elf/leather no longer falsely gets [[Mage Armor]] property, hunt around and see if any forum posts support this.
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:* [[Publish 51]] would suggest runic crafted/looted elf/leather no longer falsely gets [[Mage Armor]] property, hunt around and see if any forum posts support this.
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:* Seems it's been fixed, try to work out which pages here mention the bug and note the change where relevant.
  
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* Check out how the [[Moongate]] cohesion system works.
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* Check out how the [[Moongate]] cohesion system works. It's doubtful it's exactly how the devs describe it. Rumour has it they're more likely to not let you through if you attempt to enter within the first couple of seconds of the gate actually opening.
  
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* Bung [[Special:Search&ns6=1&redirs=0&searchx=1&search=map&limit=500&offset=0|this lot]] in the [[:Category:Maps|Maps category]].
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* Revert [http://www.uoguide.com/index.php?title=Peerless_Reagents&curid=10981&diff=32279&oldid=31833 this] and [http://www.uoguide.com/index.php?title=Virtue_Armor_Set&curid=3312&diff=32387&oldid=31414 this] when a certain someone fixes [[User_talk:JC_the_Builder#Imagelink|this]].

Latest revision as of 03:21, 27 May 2009

Chat Section

So are you an Aussi? (Oi Oi Oi!) --Ceruleus 19:17, 16 April 2008 (PDT)

Sort of, I'm a New Zealander who just happens to live in Tasmania (both areas are closest to the Oceania server).

- Bomb Bloke 19:36, 16 April 2008 (PDT)

A Kiwi! Very cool. Kia Ora! --Ceruleus 19:42, 16 April 2008 (PDT)

Sorry about the native res stuff. My moniter is large, and Wilki is all new to me. Having fun learning though. Bare with me:) --Meridus 10:36, 12 May 2008 (PDT)

(So THAT's what "noeditsection" does...) What does it do? I couldn't figure it out:) Meridus 20:46, 17 July 2008 (PDT)

You know how each section in a page (like this one, "Chat Section") has an "edit" link next to the title? Well, it gets rid of those. Handy when trying to embed sections into a table (where the links really mess things up).

- Bomb Bloke 20:53, 17 July 2008 (PDT)

Thanks. I had to laugh. I read your description, and then read the command, and thought "I guess it was kinda obvious." As a side note, your tables look awesome! Meridus 21:10, 17 July 2008 (PDT)

Thanks. But really I just found a few tables I liked, and then set about copying them where ever I felt relevant. ;)

- Bomb Bloke 21:15, 17 July 2008 (PDT)

Bomb Bloke...a full Bag of Sending can send 15000 gold not 1500 that is why I changed it. Try it out...1 charge per 10 stones...50 gold per 1 stone = 500 gold per 10 stones = 1 charge for 500 gold = 30 charges for 15000 gold.

TullyMars 13:48, 7 August 2008 (EDT)

My apologies, I got it stuck in my head that one charge per stone was required.

- Bomb Bloke 21:55, 11 August 2008 (PDT)

I wanted to notify you that I've responded to your comment on my talk page. Thadius856 23:35, 10 September 2008 (PDT)

Well, I've replied to your comment on my talk page. I'm not sure if I'll continue contributing... maybe, maybe not. I feel as if my additions to the guide are unappreciated, despite my donation of time and best efforts. Thanks for talking all the same. Thadius856 00:32, 11 September 2008 (PDT)

I've promoted 3 people in one day and am running out of stuff to say. Congratulations, please help update the Main Page. =] - JC the Builder 11:55, 5 September 2008 (PDT)

Replied to the discussion on my page. - GregStaats 04:36, 30 December 2008 (EST)

Great Pets section mate! I hadnt seen it before and I thought i had read this entire website! lol cant we get the guides listed under the guides section to auto list on the main page? when you look at the directory it looks like there are only a few guides when there are more hidden behind it? :) - ShadowSpinner 09:47, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, though I didn't write that from scratch. There's also a Mounts page you might be interested in.

Overall we don't have too many "guides", the exception being for quests. Many of the guides we do have "need work". Not really sure we have enough overall to justify sticking them on the main page just yet.

But there's other folks around here who have their own opinions, I'm sure.  :)

Nevertheless I've thrown a "Pets" link onto the Directory. Tempting to expand it out into a section, but I don't really have the time at the minute to mess with the layout (which fits quite nicely at the moment).

Speaking of which, while I'm editing my talk page, I should note that I'm off overseas as of tomorrow. Back at the end of the month. Dunno if I'll be making much in the way of edits while I'm gone.

- Bomb Bloke 10:30, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Please check your Stratics private messages, I sent you one. Thanks. - JC the Builder 21:37, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Re: Talk:Main_Page#Making_UOGuide_more, I was messing around with vercfg.cfg the other day and could not get it to actually change the patch page. I tried several urls, but the normal patch page always came up, and some urls (especially if formatted incorrectly) even caused the patcher to crash. Have you ever managed to actually get it to change which url is displayed in the patcher?
--Cogniac 05:42, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I have previously been able to change the URL displayed by the patcher though I now find myself incapable of doing so. Upon reading the config file, the thing promptly removes my URL and replaces it with the default again (unless I phrase things "just so", in which case it'll leave my URL there but ignore it. It then adds the default URL (so it has two) and uses that).

It also restores a whole heap of "plain english" text telling me about the great new stuff being introduced by Publish 19, if I happen to remove that from the file. Not sure why it's there in the first place.

If I were to guess, I'd say the changes were put into place either due to something like this thread, or posts such as this.

A couple of months ago the patch page was actually "fixed" somewhat (no more black text on a black background), but I still think it's past it's glory days.

- Bomb Bloke 07:31, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Looking at the recent changes to the Myrmidon Armor Set piece pages, I was reminded once again and have to say that you always do such fantastic work with the items and sets! --Tancred RedStar 15:49, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Haha. You flatter me. :)

- Bomb Bloke 23:09, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Deletion Requests

Got something you reckon needs the chop?

Post a link and your reasoning, I'll take a look at it.

My Questions

Regarding stamina/dexterity mismatches, and maximum skill caps.

Regarding a cave entrance south of Sanctuary entrance.

Regarding the best use of redirects instead of pages with little info on them.

To Do

  • Crossbreeding info.
  • Try to remember how often Fertile Dirt gave growth bonuses...
  • Publish 51 would suggest runic crafted/looted elf/leather no longer falsely gets Mage Armor property, hunt around and see if any forum posts support this.
  • Seems it's been fixed, try to work out which pages here mention the bug and note the change where relevant.
  • Check out how the Moongate cohesion system works. It's doubtful it's exactly how the devs describe it. Rumour has it they're more likely to not let you through if you attempt to enter within the first couple of seconds of the gate actually opening.
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