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Does that mean everywhere have a chance to get all kind of ore providing you have the skill, or you still have to mine at certain location in order to have the chance to get higher level ore?
 
Does that mean everywhere have a chance to get all kind of ore providing you have the skill, or you still have to mine at certain location in order to have the chance to get higher level ore?
 
--[[User:Zeta|Zeta]] 03:34, 7 July 2008 (PDT)
 
--[[User:Zeta|Zeta]] 03:34, 7 July 2008 (PDT)
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:An ore spot could provide any ore type, but how often they change type depends on how often they're dug. Your skill makes no difference to the chance of ''finding'' a rare ore, it only determines whether you can actually dig that ore up.
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:If you find a rare ore type, milk it for all it's worth. It may not be there tomorrow (especially true on the more populated shards).
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:Prior to this rule, all ore spots were set and they stayed as they were. You found a valourite vein, that was that - You could mark the spot in your rune book and mine to your heart's content. It's generally thought that the change was aimed at scripters, but like most anti-scripting attempts it really makes things better for those people. They still pull in more resources then anyone, only now that resources are rarer and hence worth more... - [[User:Bomb Bloke|Bomb Bloke]] 06:28, 7 July 2008 (PDT)
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::I found that a location always spawning valorite, is this a bug or they are changed back? --[[User:Zeta|Zeta]] 09:43, 5 August 2008 (PDT)
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:::It should change to something else after a while... -- [[User:Tancred RedStar|Tancred RedStar]] 14:31, 5 August 2008 (PDT)
  
 
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"Elves have an increased chance of harvesting special ore types from colored veins (as opposed to finding colored veins)." Been a miner for more than 3 years and have no idea what nuance is trying to be stated in the above quote; the parenthetical clause offers no clarification. Would anyone care to explain the difference between "special ore types" and "colored veins?" --[[User:Ceruleus|Ceruleus]] 03:12, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
  
An ore spot could provide any ore type, but how often they change type depends on how often they're dug. Your skill makes no difference to the chance of ''finding'' a rare ore, it only determines whether you can actually dig that ore up.
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:Sounds to me like it means that if a valorite vein has 10 ore to be dug, the elves will have a chance to get 7 valorite and 3 iron whereas a human will get 6 valorite and 4 iron(''illustrative numbers only''). I think the parenthetical was included to indicate elves get more of the good stuff, not necessarily having a better chance of finding it in the first place. --[[User:Tancred RedStar|Tancred RedStar]] 03:38, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
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:: Correct, though I'm not sure if the statement is actually "true". That's just how it is according to "official" race bonus documentation. I've got a vague memory of reading a forum post somewhere that suggested that elves can simply pull up more ore (either plain ''or'' coloured) from a given node, and so will get more coloured stuff overall.<br><br>Examples of "special ore type" are Shadow Iron, Dull Copper, Valourite, etc. A "coloured vein" is an ore node that, when harvested from, can produce those special ore types. - [[User:Bomb Bloke|Bomb Bloke]] 04:30, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
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If you find a rare ore type, milk it for all it's worth. It may not be there tomorrow (especially true on the more populated shards).
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"Mining veins in towns are half of what you could get outside of the towns."
  
Prior to this rule, all ore spots were set and they stayed as they were. You found a valourite vein, that was that - You could mark the spot in your rune book and mine to your heart's content. It's generally thought that the change was aimed at scripters, but like most anti-scripting attempts it really makes things better for those people. They still pull in more resources then anyone, only now that resources are rarer and hence worth more...
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Er, really? I'd heard some nodes stock double the amount of ore then others (24 vs 12), but didn't realise this was based on whether they were in a "town" area or not.
  
- [[User:Bomb Bloke|Bomb Bloke]] 06:28, 7 July 2008 (PDT)
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Or is this based on guard zones?
  
I found that a location always spawning valorite, is this a bug or they are changed back?
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- [[User:Bomb Bloke|Bomb Bloke]] 07:54, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
  
--[[User:Zeta|Zeta]] 09:43, 5 August 2008 (PDT)
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: It does not matter if it is in a town/guard zone or not. Some nodes have double the ore of others, true, but I have found them in the mountains west of Britain in the guard zone as well as in the wilds. [[User:Katherine|Katherine]] 14:22, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

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"Ore veins have a chance to change ore type every time they restock." Does that mean everywhere have a chance to get all kind of ore providing you have the skill, or you still have to mine at certain location in order to have the chance to get higher level ore? --Zeta 03:34, 7 July 2008 (PDT)

An ore spot could provide any ore type, but how often they change type depends on how often they're dug. Your skill makes no difference to the chance of finding a rare ore, it only determines whether you can actually dig that ore up.
If you find a rare ore type, milk it for all it's worth. It may not be there tomorrow (especially true on the more populated shards).
Prior to this rule, all ore spots were set and they stayed as they were. You found a valourite vein, that was that - You could mark the spot in your rune book and mine to your heart's content. It's generally thought that the change was aimed at scripters, but like most anti-scripting attempts it really makes things better for those people. They still pull in more resources then anyone, only now that resources are rarer and hence worth more... - Bomb Bloke 06:28, 7 July 2008 (PDT)
I found that a location always spawning valorite, is this a bug or they are changed back? --Zeta 09:43, 5 August 2008 (PDT)
It should change to something else after a while... -- Tancred RedStar 14:31, 5 August 2008 (PDT)

"Elves have an increased chance of harvesting special ore types from colored veins (as opposed to finding colored veins)." Been a miner for more than 3 years and have no idea what nuance is trying to be stated in the above quote; the parenthetical clause offers no clarification. Would anyone care to explain the difference between "special ore types" and "colored veins?" --Ceruleus 03:12, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Sounds to me like it means that if a valorite vein has 10 ore to be dug, the elves will have a chance to get 7 valorite and 3 iron whereas a human will get 6 valorite and 4 iron(illustrative numbers only). I think the parenthetical was included to indicate elves get more of the good stuff, not necessarily having a better chance of finding it in the first place. --Tancred RedStar 03:38, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
Correct, though I'm not sure if the statement is actually "true". That's just how it is according to "official" race bonus documentation. I've got a vague memory of reading a forum post somewhere that suggested that elves can simply pull up more ore (either plain or coloured) from a given node, and so will get more coloured stuff overall.

Examples of "special ore type" are Shadow Iron, Dull Copper, Valourite, etc. A "coloured vein" is an ore node that, when harvested from, can produce those special ore types. - Bomb Bloke 04:30, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

"Mining veins in towns are half of what you could get outside of the towns."

Er, really? I'd heard some nodes stock double the amount of ore then others (24 vs 12), but didn't realise this was based on whether they were in a "town" area or not.

Or is this based on guard zones?

- Bomb Bloke 07:54, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

It does not matter if it is in a town/guard zone or not. Some nodes have double the ore of others, true, but I have found them in the mountains west of Britain in the guard zone as well as in the wilds. Katherine 14:22, 5 May 2009 (UTC)